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The zone 2 sprints appear to be in conflict with normal zone 2 goals. I understand the cadence training.

Could there be an option to turn the sprints off?

Dave

Being a “Mr Z2 guy.” I know this was real struggle for me… I figured most hard core Z2 guys should use HR and hoping to slip this in without anyone suggesting this option :slight_smile: So I was waiting for message. So really, I am with you. Are you saying you would like this right away? If so we can get on it.

I like to do things by the book but Andrea is not such a purist Zone 2 guy and he feels these are good and not going to add fatigue. And make them more interesting for sure. But for those of us that believe the “special Z2 sauce” story well then… :slight_smile:

I’ll try them as is again, the first time the sprints seemed abrupt, but I may not have been open minded.

Dave

We put a little ramp before it. I did it on my spin bike so did not test what ERG feels like on the wahoo or Neo, I need to try this… I think different devices will feel different as well.

Try doing the sprints standing up - they allow your ass to get some well-deserved rest on those long Z2 days on power trainer :slight_smile: I’m a fan

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Dave, curious as to your thoughts on the micro sprints.

I haven’t been on the trainer since early last week. The weather has been great so I’ve been riding outside.

I prefer the CJ slope style workouts where Z2 is a constant 65%, but my trainer does not like the automated erg/slope changes and will stop controlling.

So, if I use the TD app I have to use the non-slope version due to that issue and would have the micro sprint WOs. I’ve been using Zwift lately, but haven’t been into it so I’ll be reviewing app options. Maybe use TD? Maybe Rouvy?

Dave

Thanks for the feedback. Enjoy the outdoors. How quickly does HR+ stop working for you? If it is easy to reproduce fairly quickly we could try fixing that.

It’s interesting on Rouvy because they sure seem to have a lot of complaints but I know at the same time friends that that is their preferred platform and it seems in general their user base really likes it. I have heard doing ERG style workouts there is not good though.

Sorry I’d have to try it again. Last time HR+ was fine starting at 40% in erg then left in HR+ but had an issue going back to erg for cool down.

I’m happy with constant power in Z2 and just tweaking plus or minus myself manually. This is an option if I use manual workouts.

My trainer has issues with trying to flash firmware updates so any issues may be on my side.

Dave

Hello,

I am also using Coach Jack plan and there are workouts where also target cadence is included. However, that seems to be not included in all marked workouts (+CAD):
e.g. I had lately a Fard 45 + CAD workout, where target CAD was shown properly in the app
but today I had a Sweet Spot + CAD, where no target CAD was shown.
This is my 6th week and looking back to other +CAD workouts (in strava) I had another sweet spot with CAD, where it seems it was not shown properly, but e.g. Gazump and Lollygag did have.

Regards,
Peter

Interesting, we will test this and see if we can replicate it or look at your workouts specifically and see if we can see this.

I also don’t see target cadence values in the Sweet Spot A #4 + CAD workout. It’s not clear - what cadence to work with in each interval?

Well hello :slight_smile: If it is short workout there might not be any cadence work in it (even though it says their is). We need to fix this. You can look at the workout and hover over on the web site and see if their is any but while using our app it will show up near the RPM. We are going to improve this soon to make it more clear. The cadence drills are relatively short… We should probably play a different sound at the start of cadence work or something… or some how let people know what to expect.

I’ve had some issues with this too. When I use TPV, it will tell me to go to higher cadence, but when I just -send the workout to my Wahoo Bolt, I see no indication. The only notification I see/get is a beeping for the interval to change but when the power is the same I assume it’s CAD work. If I"m not paying attention, I miss it, but it would be nice to have a more obvious signal.

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