[COMPLETED] - Repeat Interval Feature

Let us start with the 2 click version above and see how that is, and if that seems still not ideal we will see what we can do.

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You can see here you can do this in 7 clicks but I realize instead of 1 it’s not great.

I am usually extending rests not hard work :slight_smile: So it’s not so bad… But again this will just be 2 clicks with no thinking required in this next iteration.

Hi Alex, Have to agree with the others here.
I’m finding this new + feature far too complicated when I’m just wanting to extend a rest interval when doing hard intervals.

The old + 10 seconds button was much appreciated when needing to get your breath back when your mentally as well as physically fatigued.

For me this new feature of adding intervals, while a great idea, should be kept separate from the original.

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Yes the problem is on some devices we did not have enough room for an additional button because putting buttons too close together causes people to click the wrong one on accident.

I had a good idea that I can add a “lock feature.” Which you set the duration you want one time and select current % and lock and then from then on you just press + like it used to be, and if you want to “unlock it” to make changes you just do a long press. Then you have exactly what you had.

Love this new feature !! I tried it out and I do believe I ran into a bug.

Alex : check out this file:
Trainer Day - Activity Detail

I did a first block of 3 repeats. Then I wanted to do the same again. Afer the 3rd “first interval”, the second effort was not added and as such the trainer was “stuck” in the first effort. Which I left on for 5 minutes since I liked the challenge :slight_smile: The advanges of “random training”…

I do have one “feature request” : you are now limited to 3 repeats, would it be difficult to add “more”, like up to 5? If anybody else is interested.

btw : trainerday is becoming more and more ahead of the “avatar tools”… I was speaking with some junior competitive riders in the last week. Who had no clue something like Trainerday even exists… Their coaches are showing a serious lack of understanding to be honest… Not lack of understand of tools, but lack of understanding how physiology works. What I’m really wondering : how difficult will it be when the continuous lactate meters arrive to take that input instead of the heart rate ? Because when that happens, cycling will change forever… I also wonder how long it would take the commercial platforms to integrate that…

Hi, cool. I knew someone would run into an issue. :slight_smile: regarding how this part of it works. We had to do some magic to try to guess what to insert, so it depends on when you press the + button. Right now it’s designed that it should work best during the last rest period right after a set of intervals.

My guess is currently that you ran into an issue because you tried to do it during the work period of the “interval pair.” I knew we would need to enhance this. I need to test all the options more myself but if you can provide any info on when you did or at least when you feel you want to press +. Probably it should be smart enough to know what you want whenever you press + :slight_smile:

It’s even slightly possible it even matters when during the rest period or if other intervals come right after the training. I just wanted to get it out there and collect some feedback so yours is helpful.

Yes, it’s funny there seems to be two camps. Do the workout exactly like I told you to, or just go out and chase an avatar… Now some days you just want to pedal and forget and that is fine. Meaning Zone 2 HR or Zone 3 ERG or something that’s fine. But when you want to do harder training it should be calculated but dynamic :slight_smile:

Yes, I guess there will be a “lactate mode” like our current HR mode at some point although I am not sure how big that market will be. By the time lactate training is big enough we should also be big enough that it will be a feature that makes sense to us, if no one else. TrainerRoad is fixated on that hard training so MLSS might fit into their interest as well, since HR mode does not seem so interesting to them but 2 mmol would be an interesting zone 2 mode and super interesting to compare to HR.

I also agree there is some strange stuff going on in the coaching world, many amazing coaches but some seem to be living out of touch. I know one coach said they thought Coach Jack was a coaching solution so they were afraid to recommend TD.

Seems like 5 should fit ok. It’s funny because I started with 5… But figured someone could just do 3+2… but since there is room and you see the vision we can make it 5…

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The most user friendly implementation I have ever seen of something like this, is to simply tap the workout graph at the location where you want to jump to. Forward or backward, no buttons needed, intuitive, fast, …

Depending on the interval you put in, after 3 of them, you are happy the next 2 don’t need an interaction with a device :slight_smile: :grinning:

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That works for repeats but this current solution adds a lot more flexibility (add new intervals) but I realize in many cases simplicity is more important than flexibility. Also I guess if you make a mistake you would need an undo. We currently use click for zoom but that could be changed. Also might be hard for precision. Who has this feature?

I tested it and it’s working fine for me. There are two potential issues. You don’t want to use this until you have started your second hard interval or later. Second is it is grabbing the rest before interval not after which on some cases could be confusing. Other than that it works correctly for me.

Ergvideo has that

Ok, cool, I will try theirs.

Oh yes I found a video here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCOKOcHtG28

They don’t modify the training to represent the change in location, this makes it more feel simple but the problem is this does not actually show you what you did. So if you originally had 5 intervals and you skipped back to the beginning, during the ride it would show you did 5 when in reality you did 10… And their total graph duration does not change. Still for simple repeats it would be fine, or lengthen an interval by an APPROXIMATE amount it would be ok but it seems more that people want a bit more precision when using TrainerDay. So add 60 seconds not add 43, and on small screen it would be hard to have much accuracy.

But in the end what I did might feel overwhelming to new people but I think once we get it working optimally this will ultimately be better, especially if precision matters. Personally I am not so precise but I know many people are.

Ok everyone here that wanted to old single press extend feature it is fully back but more flexible version. By default now it will be “extend current interval” just like it was before and it shows a little lock symbol indicating that.

And just like before a long hold can modify the amount of time each click does. Below shows exactly this. You can also create a preset say 200w work for 1 minute and 100w rest and have that on a single click.

Also @Sport_IT_Diederik I added up to 5 intervals.

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You’re a star Alex !!! Will try it tonight !

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Can someone please explain how we simply add time to the current interval? I’ve clicked every button on both tabs and just can’t seem to make it work. image

Sorry it is so confusing …

Set all this below and next time you click + it will just extend your interval, you will not see this popup.

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I have just tried this from my desk rather than riding. I set it up as instructed above for 5 minutes in my case. However, once I press “insert intervals” and go back to the workout and press “+” the interval time and total time does up by 5 seconds not 5 minutes.

What am I doing wrong?

Sorry about that. I see the same bug. It iooks like no one tested the minutes version of this extend. We will get that fixed asap.

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