Advantages of using the trainer day app vs doing workouts outside of the app (i.e. zwift or other simulators)

I was wondering if there are any advantages/disadvantages of exporting workouts from a training plan via TP to an app like Zwift, MyWhoosh, etc.

Mainly in terms of Trainerday feature losses or degradation given that there maybe some data loss since the workouts are outside of the Trainerday app.

Maybe no data is loss, but I figure it possibly does lose some fidelity or at least the ability to adapt a training real time base on performance

Cheers

Great question. It depends on how you export workouts, if you export ZWO files and load to Zwift folders there is minimal or I believe zero loss, going through TrainingPeaks loses a little bit (interval comments, ramps, …) I would say generally there is not enough loss that it should be a major factor in your decision. I would say train in the way or with the platform that is most enjoyable to you. Coach Jack builder is a static plan builder and I recommend continuing to make your own changes to your plan which can be done easier if you only export one day or one week at a time for example.

I don’t love how Zwift ERG works (less flexibility) so for example if you can use Ant+ with Zwift you could use our app to control it. But again it’s not a big deal.

Thanks, Alex. Since I am not a premium TP member, I am syncing the workouts with TD one day at a time.

  1. I noticed that when I completed one of the Coach Jack workouts, it didn’t mark it as completed. It showed up in the TD calendar via the integration with Strava, but the workout still showed as not completed. Is the expected?
  2. How can I update a training plan that is already on the TD calendar? For example, increase the number of days once I am in week 2, and making the change effective on the TD calendar.

If the workout is on you calendar and you are performing that workout in MyWhoosh and we get it from strava yes it should auto mark it as completed on the calendar. If you click edit plan at the top of the calendar, you can add a day in the plan builder and auto update the calendar.

Is that on the calendar page? I don’t see that option. I am not sure what did i do wrong. I created a coach jack plan and sent it to my calendar. It shows as Sebastian’s Base Plan, but I can’t edit per the screenshot below

What it looks like you did is send a plan to my plans and then to your calendar rather than directly from CJ to your calendar. Unless there is a bug of some sort. If you are pretty sure you sent it from CJ direct to the calendar (the default action) then you can also try going to the Coach Jack page and you will see your CJ plan history there and you can edit from there and it should work.

Alex, there seems to be a bug on completing the plans on my whoosh. I suspect you are all doing matching on the workout name and mywhoosh is adding a short string to the workout once completed.

I send my workout from my plans to trainingpeak. It then populated the workout on the mywhoosh calendar. I completed the workout and uploaded to trainingpeaks and strava.

THe workout shows up in the TD calendar, but in the training plan is still showing as not completed.
Here is the Calendar view. The workout highlighted name on the calenadar is “Mywhoos - Collywobbles 45”

Here is the training Plan view

You do not have this plan on your calendar. You have it in my plans. You can send it from my plans to your calendar but even better is to send it directly from CJ to your calendar. When using CJ plans you don’t really need to send them to My Plans if you plan on follow a calendar it’s best not to.

I know, it’s a little confusing. We offer a lot of flexibility like this. It would be nice if we found a way to support the idea you are suggesting which is matching my plans to the calendar.

I was planning to leave it in my plans to have the flexibility you are talking about. Schedules with two jobs, a family and a toddler is not realistic :slight_smile:

Therefore I was trying to just send a workout a the time to TP as I have time to do them. That way they populate on MyWhoosh. Unfortunately, it is not getting marked as completed. Is there a work around to mark the workouts completed?

Oh yes, so each day when you send to TP also send it to your calendar at the same time.

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Oh sorry, yes in the app you can mark it as completed. Which causes it to move to the next one.

Hello Serave84,

you can automatically import/export workouts from Trainerday to the indoor cycling software from icTrainer.com without going through TrainingPeaks.

One of the advantages of this software is that you can see more live data during a workout (e.g. heart rate, cadence, right/left balance, power, core body temperature, muscle oxygen saturation, etc.), have entertainment features (real route videos, music to match the cadence, integrated browser for e.g. netflix, etc.) and use the software on more platforms (windows, mac, ipad, android, iphone, etc.).

Whether you need this is certainly up to you and you can simply try it out for free.

Best,
Nicolas

Hi Alex,

I tried that this morning. I sent it to TP and my calendar. Then completed the workout in mywhoosh and it still doesn’t show as completed on the Calendar.

Just wanted to share as it seems like a bug.

I am able to mark it as completed on the calendar, but now I have two trainings on the same day.

There may be a bug, but hard to say at this point. You must first have the planned workout on your calendar before you finish your ride in MyWhoosh. If you want to connect the planned workout with the completed activity you can click on pair like this

But I don’t think that will do what you want (it will pair them but this is calendar related not My Plans related. I think you want to cause the My Plans plan to progress from one workout to the next. See below how to do that.

Assuming you have your plan active in our mobile app (see below).

Then inside our app on the today screen you will see todays workout. You can click on it and mark it as completed. See below.

We have no way to mark a workout as completed from my plans in the website at this time, only in the app.

I have also observed this issue. I have my plan added to my calendar in the TD app. I sync my daily workouts from TD->TP->MyWhoosh. The workout shows up in MyWhoosh but it is not marked completed in TD when I complete it in MyWhoosh. Instead they show up as a separate activity from strava.

Ok, we will look at this. Strange