AI Endurance TrainerDay Integration

Announcements and New Features
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Hi all,

AI Endurance is now integrated with TrainerDay. If you enable the integration

  1. your TrainerDay completed workouts will be imported into AI Endurance upon completion
  2. your AI Endurance training plan will be imported into TrainerDay

How AI Endurance is different from the other AI training apps:

  • we’re not just a wrapper around LLM calls: we model your physiological response with a digital twin that is trained on your historical numerical workout power, heart rate etc data + model your recovery with HRV, sleep, soreness etc data
  • LLMs help with adaptability, analysis, explainability, nutrition and fine-tuning of training plans

You can create an account at https://aiendurance.com 14 day free trial, then $20 USD/month.

Thank you @Alex for helping us getting this integration up and running!

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I love to see my favorite apps join forces :partying_face:

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Thanks Markus. It was great working and discussing with you. Although I have not had time to try your product based on our discussions and discussions with others it seems like it is likely a great product/solution.

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Hi @markusrummel this looks very intersting to me and i started to dive deeper.

I connected TrainerDay but it seems, nothing was tranferred. I downloaded my most recent trainings and uploded manually.

My question would be, is it worth/does it makes sense to uplaod all my TrainingDay rides? We talk about Data starting last year march with in average i think 4 rides per week.

My Wearable is Whoop. Here i got plenty of thoughts and background infos, which might be intersting for you, regarding the data input. Let me know, when you want to have them.

I also linked my Whoop i saw the last 14 days was imported but only the over night data.

I created a plan already and stenght training is included but how it will be reflected? i track my strength training in whoop.

Best regards

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Hi @Abrams , thanks for connecting!

Re import: it can take a while/few hours but since this integration is new I’d like to double-check your TrainerDay historic import works as intended. Should be the last 2 years of data. Could you please email me the email address you used for AI Endurance to markus@aiendurance.com so I can check your account?

For Whoop we’re only using overnight HR/HRV data indeed. It’s a deliberate choice because those metrics have the most backing in research and also mirror a lot of other metrics we could use (for example lack of sleep will lead to tanking of rmssd in most scenarios). But curious to hear your thoughts what other data we could consider.

Re strength: we’re currently not importing activities from whoop (generally speaking we import only if we get the full data of a workout, i.e. fit file) and I don’t think Whoop API makes that available. You can manually track Whoop activities by adding manual activities in AI Endurance calendar or also through intermediary like Strava or Intervals.icu

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Hi Makrus,

mail is sent.

Regarding Whoop: i agree that its nice backed with research. I don’t think that there should other data be used i just wanted to highlight, that i end up with relatively high RHR. Lately i could lower it but it still hovers around 65 bpm. I do like 90-120 mins of strength training per week and 3-4h cardio, HR based 142 bpm (MAF).

Whoops RHR and HRV is taken, to my knowledge, at the last deep sleep segment of the night. Wrist worn Wearables, are well known struggling in sleep stage detection. For some its better for others worse but overall, we only get an idea about the time asleep not so much about light, deep and REM. With this source of errors, the measurements for RHR + HRV for the last block of deep sleep is already questionable from my point of view and could be wrong already. But it will be the base for the calculations, righ t?

Last night for example: my RHR reported by Whoop: 68 bpm.

If I go to the data of the night, shortly after falling asleep first deep sleep block reported by whoop with RHR of 57 bpm.

I think that’s a huge discrepancy and potentially a big impact on the calculat ions?

To be honest, I did not feel nice after getting up this morning, sleep amount fine but else, headache etc. far away from feeling reaching new grounds.

Don’t get me wrong, I don’t want to question Whoops way of doing things, actually I have 1300 Days of Data so this data is somehow my truth.

These thoughts came up, when I saw my todays Dashboard and my Aerobic Recovery showing 3% only whilst my RHR is only 4 bpm above average and HRV 2 ms below average. That 3% was bit shocking and would make skip any cardio that day but potentially this number is right. Just sharing thoughts and feelings of my experience so far.

This is potentially result of my HRV and RHR in the last month reached a plateau. Not moving a lot and hovering around their averages.

My question towards strength training was more related how the stress/strain or training load will be calculated/considered or reflected. Actually, it’s good, that whoop workouts are not synced into AI Endurance to avoid duplicates and, sadly, Whoop does not consider Watts and Cadence, HR only.

Best regards