That’s great having it fixed!
My only problem now is that when i go from doing a HR+ quickstart Z2 session to an actual workout on a differnt day it doesn’t switch back to Erg mode. Would be nice if erg based workouts switched it to Erg mode.
Now that my HR+ target isn’t resetting it can take me quite a while before I realize i’m on the wrong setting and not doing anything like i’m supposed to be doing. oops.
Cool, yes. Ok but unless you specify it is ERG we don’t know it is an ERG workout. If it is specified it should automatically switch although I am not sure we ever tested this for the first interval going from quick start or merging. See below how your workouts need to look. Let me know if this is what you have and it is not working.
I’m mostly just doing random workouts like this while it’s off season: Trainer Day - Workout: SST (Long)
i thought workouts scaling off ftp would be erg based by default. the graph doesn’t really make sense if you do a workout like that in HR+ mode.
fwiw in the editor it looks like:
all FTP%, which I would think would make it an erg type?
this is why I fall for the trap:
the first 10 mins almost matched what i was supposed to be doing, and by the point i’m off track i’m distracted watching netflix. oops.
I dunno if it’s related but the app is usually in quick start mode when i open it, with i guess whatever the last settings i had (in this case HR+ w/ 137hr). maybe it’s already done a few seconds in that mode while i’m selecting the workout.
It’s not really a big deal, i’ll remember to switch modes eventually, just thought it might not be intended behaviour.
Not exactly because some people for example like to do % of FTP workouts (for a visual example of what the workout is) but just click slope so they can set it to manual slope mode and control power with gears and cadence but their target is still % of FTP. The same could be said with resistance mode.
I have not given this enough thought yet but it’s possible that almost everyone switching from HR+ warmup to selecting a % of FTP workout would want it to default to ERG. We are in uncharted territory 
and this is the first someone discussed this. Many people are just designing their own HR+ workouts and adding ERG segments.
Generally you are using the app exactly how I think people should train and so I like the idea of HR+ warmups so this might be a new feature we could add or just a change in the way it works. The thing is people that leave it in slope mode would prefer it to just stay in slope mode, not switch to ERG automatically.
PS it’s interesting it started matching your target interval slope. That is random I think, but some how HR+ target seems like it was affected by selecting another workout. I don’t remember exactly how that works. I will think about this more.
I think it’s just that the HR ramp up to target is similar to the ramp up in those workouts.
When I look at the types col in those workouts I see this:
Seems like maybe that type col has dual purposes, and perhaps things which change the trainer/app mode i.e slope/erg/hr should be their own thing.
Maybe when switching to a non HR workout which doesn’t set the mode it should go back to the last non HR mode you were in. That or the settings could have a default workout mode for the people who dont like erg mode (is it because they are riding outside or not on a smart trainer?).
Anyway, just a few thoughts I can def live with the way it is atm. It just seems like something that a few people might run into if they do quickstart HR workouts on a regular basis.
Yes that column has multiple effects but wu/active/rest stuff is more relevant to outdoors and erg/slope/hr is more about indoor. Also due to the width of our page we don’t have room to add any more columns. It seems that this solution has worked so far. In your case, yes you have multiple options (create clones of workouts and add ERG to first one) or as you said just click ERG after the warmup.
I think switching to ERG at the start of a merge from HR+ likely is better for 95% of the people (actually probably 100% = 1 person, you ). But since you are training in what I feel, is my favorite style of training I am extra sympathetic to this request. I moved this to a feature request so it does not get lost. We won’t do it right away.
sounds great, in the meantime i’ll clone some workouts and set them to erg on that first step
Was kinda hoping coach jack would be able to setup a polarized plan with HR based zone2 rides combined with some Erg based high intensity rides. If that ever becomes possible hopefully the generated rides will switch the mode for me.
Yes this is something I also want to do to. CJ with HR+ and more towards traditional polarized. You can do it now. Create a 1 day a week plan with VO2max blocks (or VO2max crunched) in Coach Jack and then just create an HR+ workout and add it to you calendar for the other days of the week.
