Hey there, I realize there is a mobile device app for running workouts and there’s the broadcast feature to a web browser from your phone, but I’m wondering if there’s just a standalone app/program for the computer to run my workouts? This seems like a fairly obvious thing but I can’t for the life of me seem to see a standalone program.
I would use my phone, but I work from home and run my own internet marketing company. So clients often call and text me whenever they feel like it’s convenient. Sometimes I’m on my bike and I’ll need to take a phone call, which would ruin my workout. For this reason I use a dedicated laptop for running Wahoo Systm and Zwift. I could use the TrainerDay workouts in Zwift, I know and I’ve done it. In fact I’ll be doing it later today, but Zwift isn’t always super stable and I’ve run into losing a session in the middle of training when Zwift decides to crash even though I have a screaming i9 laptop with an Invidia 3070ti graphics card and 40gb of DDR5 RAM…
So a few options, none of them are perfect. We will build a PC and native mac app but we need to just get a bit bigger first (need to hire my tester full time). So this is likely to happen in 2025.
Some options
Some people get Android emulators working on PC
Mac M series can run iOS apps natively
iCTrainer is integrating with us and you can follow your workouts using their PC app. That is happening this week and might already be done.
I feel like the Windows APP would be a great idea that will solve many issues no? Pretty much everyone uses a windows laptop. Not sure why the android / ios were a priority.
We have lots of customers that don’t use PCs (or desktop in general). I have never met anyone that does not have Android/iOS… Well, not that trains anyway. Also I would say 30% of our customers don’t use a PC… No one on our team does for example. We are all mac users. My guess for desktop usage it is something like this
55% use PC
30% use mac
10% use nothing or rarely use desktops for personal use
5% use linux
Remember generally people that are doing indoor training have a higher than average income. This changes the ratio of usage. Many people might use PC’s for work but not as personal computers and not that they want to or can install personal software on.
But it is a nice idea but we prefer to prioritize the stability of iOS and Android at this time and when we have more money for more testing capacity then we can add more platforms. This day is coming.
Now there´s a bold statement…
I use one, but it’s from my employer. I have a Linux desktop, an Android phone and 2 Android streaming boxes. If I could, I would gladly loose the Windows laptop…
Sadly, we seemed to be getting bogged down with other stuff so I don’t see it coming 2025. We still feel it is a priority. We are still growing great but not fast enough to higher more people yet.
Ok, I would also like to run off my windows laptop it has a bigger and nicer screen than my ageing ipad, but I will wait patiently in hope it will one day happen.
On another topic have you considered training load, fatigue and readiness metrics?
Similar to some other apps we are exploring a web version. But you can broadcast to your laptop or bigger screen now.
I am avoiding metrics at this time. I feel like metics is something so well covered by other applications with a lot of rich depth to them. TP, Intervals, Garmin, even Strava to some degree…
If you have used a PMC much you realize their is a lot of variance between how negative you can let your TSB go before you start having problems and it also drives the wrong behavior because people short on time will try to increase intensity to make up for it.
So just the right indicators similar to TR’s RED/GREEN concept is not so bad if done correctly. I like their RED/GREEN simplicity but it should be more in the form of warnings because you can’t accurately predict physiology with math but you can say… hey looking dangerous, if you feel anything weird or having sleep issues we suggest you back off… I have not looked closely at how well optimized the TR red/green solution is. I think it is very basic.
Xert also has a red/green style indicator. What they also provide is a freshness slider so that you can correct the app and let them know you are not feeling as tired as it thinks or the other way around.
Oh interesting, yes I do believe it’s possible to do a good job of this, just have not used TR or Xert since introducing these features. If Xert let’s you provide feedback/adjust that is optimum… I know TR does this too but not sure if it affects their red/green indicators.
Yes I talked to him before… He even posted on our forum here in the past. We just want a fully TD solution. Also https://biketerra.com/ is integrated with us and intervals and he is browser version of zwift… but we will build our own… Browser based is slightly painful for the user as they have to connect devices each time. Maybe we can then build just a small stand alone mac and windows app just for the BLE connection…