9 weeks till the Alps-what plan?

Hi,
I have 6 days in the Alps from 12th july so a shade over 8 weeks to go. Off the bike last couple of weeks post Mallorca but fired up to get training and have 12-15 hours a week -hopefully.
With 510km and 15000 meters of climbing over 6 days there will be some long days in the saddle. In particular day 5 with 175km and 5000m of ascent.
I did have a plan that rolled into and through the Mallorca 312 into prep for the Alps but health, life and this 2 week break mean i need to start afresh. So, do i go with a big climbs, big day or go custom? FWIW i rode conservatively in Mallorca over 4 days inccluding the 312, watching HR and keeping it below 150bpm. Power varied on climbs as i got carried away but averaged 180w at 2.5w/k-FTP 220ish. NP for rides in the 140-150w. A year ago i held 240w up Sa Calobra for 42 min so theres potentially a bit in the tank with the right training, though endurance over 6 days must be the key here i think?

Advice grateully accepted :slight_smile:

I don’t have any specific advice, but what you’re doing is awesome.

Dave

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Big climbs should be great. Dial the starting intensity right so it feels moderate but not easy. You are living the dream of us crazy people anyway.

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Big climbs it is.
Plan set. I cannot immediately see a way to adjust intensity when the plan starts on tuesday. Is this because i went through Coach Jack?

Intensity is setting in CJ. In calendar you can edit in top right and change in CJ and it will update calendar. Probably around intensity of 3 - 5 is about right but it’s very personal.

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Oh man, hat off looking at what you have ahead. 8 weeks should be fine, the endurance skills are long lasting and couple of weeks off the bike won’t harm you.

I just did 200 km with 4600 m of elevation on Tenerife (gentle climbs like 7-8%) and I was cooked by the end of the day.

I had +10 TSB and 78 of CTL on D day but next time I would probably aim for CTL around 90-100, with enough daylight in June I plan to make a sort “double Teide” - up, down and back again.

Good luck and man, I’m jealous :slight_smile:

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Tenerife sounds perfect. I had hoped to go there this year but will have to wait until next year.

Hya,

just an update on my training and the Alps trip.
Apart from the very odd interval session i stuck to training in z2 and keeping hr in the 12-130 range, with an increasing emphasis on upper z2, so about 180w at 76 kilos. I had not trained a great deal whilst awaiting heart tests and once i got the all clear didnt have much time to work on intensity. Ftp probably between 210 and 220 and quite a bit below ftp of 235 measured on an outdooor ride 12 months ago, 248 approx 2y ago.
Anyway, 6 days of riding up Alp D’huez, Glandon, Galibiere, Croix de fer, Sabot, Sarrenne etc. These were long climbs, between 13 and 27 km, some at average 10% gradients. I was plagued by right leg hamstring cramps from day one and suspect that, riding with much stronger riders, i had simply started each climb too hard.In the week before the trip my leg had locked up-knee issues-and left muscles tight. I made myself settle down and eased into riding the climbs at my pace. Power profile on the climbs confirmed 170-180w, occasion stretchs above 200w, and a Intervals ICU ftp of 209 on, i think Glandon.
My takeaway? TD and Z2 training works. Looking back over other trips i can see my power on the climbs is about the same, at a much reduced ftp. I certainly dont feel that z2 training alone hindered me though i wonder what difference some intensity , say 80-20 balance and not locking my leg up might have made.
I have given myself a week off the bike and will start traing again for Calp in late novemebr. I will be looking for a plan with some intensity to see what happens.

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For this kind of events, I would suggest doing progressive high tempo/Sweetspot intervals.
That will be much more specific then, for example, VO2 work.
Increase your capacity in sub-threshold region.

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Sound suggestion.

As per this previous thread, the “Steve Neal Fatmax” intervals could work very well

In short summary:

85% FTP, capped by 83% of max HR, with cadence slightly lower than your normal, start with something like 3x15 and progress 3x20, 3x25, 4x20, 3x30. Twice per week, on consecutive days.

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I have taken a few more weeks off the bike and so will start a new plan monday. I will look to incorporate this into a big climbs plan.