I don’t remember if you told me this but do you plan on doing yearly periods of low HR? It seems like people can plateau with low HR and taking a break and coming back to it… It’s almost the inverse of thinking about traditional periodization. Your base period is where you increase and your build and peak are were you fine tune. I have done many periods of low HR but I am on/off inconsistent so the patterns are not so clear.
Low HR workouts are definitely here to stay in some for another for me, that’s for sure.
For now, I will carry on until I see a plateau in power at 126bpm and decide what to do at that point.
I am still toying with the idea of returning (after a long, long time) to time trials. That would influence the nature of my training to some extent.
Yes, if I remember correctly Mark Allen said it took 2 years before he plateaued and then just cycled in seasonal true base periods. Oh yes I remember you said TTs, it’s interesting to me, not sure I could handle the suffering except maybe a 2-3 minute TT 
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Ivegotabike,
Where does 126 BPM come in for you power wise? Is this a middle of zone 2 power or closer to LT1 power?
Did 126 BOM come straight from the MAF formula or did you determine it some other way?
Dave
In terms of power, it varies. Whilst the underlying trend is that the average power is increasing, there is considerable day to day variability. Here are a couple of examples
The MAF formula gives 132bpm for me, so a training range of 122-132bpm.
I set 126bpm to give me a bit of headroom to try to respect the 132bpm ceiling - my HR increases when I drink, or eat, or get up out of the saddle, or any number of other things.
Looking at the data, I could probably get away with nudging it up to 127bpm, but the results at 126bpm are good enough for me for now.
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Thanks, looks great!
This type of training appears very effective to push your power duration curve to the right.
Dave
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Hi. This is very cool. I am wondering how I could I track this for me. Could you let me know what software you are using to generate that graph? Thank you.
intervals.icu
it is a very versatile and powerful analysis platform
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I am now sure that HR+ control is a better choice (for me) than ERG for Tempo / low Sweet Spot workouts.
More here Steve Neal tempo training thoughts - #94 by Ivegotabike
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Can I ask? Where do you set your heart rates that you want within the app? I’d like to try this out but no clue how to set it up
Thanks!
The easiest way is to
Click on quickstart
Click on the HR+ button
Use the +/- button to choose the HR you want as your target
Start pedalling
As shown in this video (cued up to the right spot)
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If you have a paid subscription (totally worth it at $5/mo) you can create your own workouts too. I’ve made a bunch HR+ workouts with 15-minute
increments. I could make them public, but they are really easy to create.
I do have the subscription. I was wondering if the workouts I have already scheduled from CJ could be used in the HR+ mode as well? @Alex
removed as the answer was incorrect
Actually that is for ourdoor. HR is different than hr+ confusing I know.
Is there a way in CJ to do what Bree wants?
Dave
Sorry, bree on slow response, and thanks Dave for pointing that out, CJ does not work with HR+ workouts. The problem is really we would need to create new plans, as the only plans that currently make any sense for HR controlled in CJ are the base plans and then you could just hop on your trainer and set a z2 intensity and ride… I would like to design new plans that make more sense for HR controlled like the fat max plans or maffetone and maffetone ++ for example just no enough time now to tackle that. It would probably be easier to extend our ai plans to support this and give people default plan/prompt templates to choose from.
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I’ve been having a bit of difficulty with the HR+ feature. I’ve set the HR to 125bpm, and all starts out fine, but once the HR gets up there and keeps climbing the resistance does not seem to be adjusting. It will go up but never seems to go below 102 watts. Because of the health issues I’m having, there are days when even 100 watts is enough to send my HR above 130 bpm.
The work around has been to just switch to ERG and adjust manually, but this doesn’t take advantage of the HR+ feature, and I’d really like to just set it and forget it.
Not sure if something in my set up is conflicting. I dual record with my Wahoo head unit in passive mode but have no other apps open on the phone except for TD.
What am I doing wrong?
Very likely the garmin is causing the issue since lots of people are using this without issue. The only other one is make sure your threshold hr is threshold not max hr… regarding garmin you mean its connected as sensor/power meter not as trainer.
I was just looking at this older thread…
It may be that my threshold HR and my FTP are just too far out of balance? I’ll be Zone 2 HR but zone 1 power. I know a lot of people are the opposite, but I don’ t sleep much.
I will look into the trainer being paired as a sensor and see if that’s it. I think it’s paired as a sensor/power meter but not sure.