Reading about how intervals can help calculate FTP automatically... How?!?!

I have read a few posts here and elsewhere that rides sent to intervals can help calculate my FTP automatically, can someone advise what I have to do to see it or to have it calculated for me? Missed having the automatic FTP calculations from TR!

1 Like

There is something like this. This is an estimated FTP and has the symbol eFTP. It should be on the chart
image
It should also be on the chart
image
If you don’t see it, you can pull it out of custom charts.

3 Likes

Just to make 100% sure you understand, they are talking about https://intervals.icu/ the product so if you need more help there it’s best to ask on their forum :slight_smile: but many of our users use this product as well.

3 Likes

Ah, I see it! Did not know it was right there when opening the activities! Does eFTP usually record less than your actual FTP? I guess that is a result of not having a max effort interval during your training ride?

1 Like

You need max effort intervals for eFTP to offer reasonable suggestions. For example, if all someone does is ride zone 2, their eFTP will not be accurate.

You can set the minimum duration on the Settings page in intervals.icu.

Dave

1 Like

Yes, I don’t like this aspect of the way every one does eFTP, I keep wanting to build something different (I tried once and failed…).

Everyone is so FTP driven, but you should not base your training strategy based on max efforts unless it happens to be the period of your training that you should be basing it on max efforts :slight_smile: Peak periods or pre-event periods are the optimum time but some people do well with some level intensity at different times. There has been a recent trend in some pros of all out 1 minute intervals once a week through a base period for example.

1 Like

Hi AntonTD,

There are cons and pros to automatic ftp calculations. The pro is that you don’t have to do a test, which always takes time and rest days.

The con is that the result is not very accurate. As a coach, it is my strong opinion that cyclist focus to much on their ftp values. You see this with all the 12 week (or less) “ftp builder programs”.

They are the equivalent of the lose weight fast diets. These programs let you do High intensity intervals for a couple of weeks and, voila, your ftp has risen.

But thisis not the result you are after. FTP meassures only a part of your fitness. It meassures the upper end of your powerspectrum. If you would do very limited zone 2 training your ftp would still rise after a program like this, but you would still collaps on the first 100 km ride and not be able to use this power if the hills are at the end of the ride.

Please keep in mind that real, long term progress comes from consistent training around your lactate threshold and your aerobic threshold.

The more specific your test is, the better it will predict your progress. Most field tests are estimated outcomes. A lactate test actually meassures our progress.

So how do you deal with this in real life? Make some time in your schedule to do an ftp test as well as an aerobic test. Book a test session with a pro analist once a year. It is important that you let the pro meassure your blood values.

You heard what Alex said: he tried and failed. I know Alex and he only offers things that are proven to be right. As soon as he offers an eftp, I will take it. Untill that time I rely on testing.

Have lots of fun, Coach Robert