Feedback about "Collywobbles 135 + CAD" CJ workout

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Hello,
in this thread I’d like to share my experience with the “Collywobbles 135 + CAD” workout from CJ plan.
This workout is the “long ride” of a rest week, therefore in theory it should not be very hard (intensity 0.66).

But strangely, and for the first time, I found it very taxing to ride the “so many” high cadence intervals. Basically every other interval it’s high cadence, with target 107rpm (now I realize that in MyWhoosh it’s shown as 107rpm, while in TD it’s 97-107).

Anyway, for the first 90 minutes it was quite ok to ride at 107rpm, but later I felt my legs basically empty, and very hard to ride at so high cadence. Expecially the long 5-10 minutes intervals.

This is the workout:

Workout Details
Warm up

7 min @ 102 W
Zone 1
Warm up

3 min @ 153 W
Zone 2

1 min @ 140 W
Zone 2
97-107 rpm

30 sec @ 168 W
Zone 3

30 sec @ 168 W
Zone 3
97-107 rpm

10 min @ 179 W
Zone 3

5 min @ 171 W
Zone 3
97-107 rpm

10 min @ 184 W
Zone 3

5 min @ 171 W
Zone 3
97-107 rpm

1 min @ 140 W
Zone 2
Repeat 5 times

2 min @ 181 W
Zone 3
97-107 rpm
Rest

2 min @ 153 W
Zone 2

5 min @ 179 W
Zone 3
97-107 rpm

5 min @ 171 W
Zone 3

5 min @ 168 W
Zone 3
97-107 rpm

2 min @ 153 W
Zone 2

30 sec @ 168 W
Zone 3
97-107 rpm

30 sec @ 168 W
Zone 3

10 min @ 179 W
Zone 3
97-107 rpm

5 min @ 171 W
Zone 3

10 min @ 184 W
Zone 3
97-107 rpm

5 min @ 171 W
Zone 3
Repeat 2 times

2 min @ 181 W
Zone 3
97-107 rpm
Rest

2 min @ 153 W
Zone 2

2 min @ 181 W
Zone 3
97-107 rpm

30 sec @ 135 W
Zone 2

2 min @ 153 W
Zone 2
97-107 rpm

2 min @ 181 W
Zone 3

2 min @ 153 W
Zone 2
97-107 rpm

2 min @ 181 W
Zone 3

30 sec @ 128 W
Zone 2
97-107 rpm
Cool Down

5 min @ 102 W
Zone 1

Was just a bad day or the so many and long high cadence intervals are too much? I’m used to Cadence training, because on Tuesday I do SFR + Cad (from CJ Plan).

In the last 60 minutes I was unable to ride the high cadence intervals at 107 rpm; I was able to achieve, with high effort, around 90/95 rpm:

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I’d like to share just my experience and know your opinion :slight_smile:

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Yeah that’s the perfect storm… Collywobbles is the hardest, then making it really long indoors and combining with CAD can be too much. We need to make an adjustment there. It should probably have 1/2 as many CAD targets, but also you could be doing closer to 97 as the range is 97-107 for you. We look at your recent cadence averages and just boost it up a bit.

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Hi @Alex
yes, exactly, this was the aim of my feedback. I think that the CAD intervals should be 1/2 and, perhaps, not that long. Surely staying closer to 97 would have helped.
The previous “recovery” long ride was “Goombah 120 + CAD” and it was much easier, despite the many CAD intervals (at lower targets).
Today I found very hard to recover from the 2x10 min intervals at 107rpm. They cut my legs :slight_smile:

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Is there a way to see the intervals of a workout from the App?

Perhaps it can be useful to prepare a bit before the training.

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That’s a feature coming soon… You can see the text description from the workouts or today tab though.

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Very good. I checked description or interval comments but not found anything about the targets of each interval.
Perhaps such info might be generated automatically and put in “interval comments”

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We do show it and automatically generate it, the problem is it is designed for outdoors which I realized for CJ workouts it groups similar intensities together which removes all the cadence targets.

See here where it does less grouping.

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